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I don't consume honey and that is entirely because vegans don't consume honey....However, I would like to know the reasons why I don't consume honey (other than it is bee vomit or that "vegans don't eat animal products") in case someone asks me...
Although I can hold a valid argument against meat, dairy, and eggs -- I don't think know much about bees. I read somewhere online that local beekeepers should be supported because they help to increase the dwindling bee population. But that can be similar to saying that chickens, pigs and cows would become extinct if we stopped eating them...
Well, I've never particularly liked honey, so I didn't really have to give it up. But I've heard vegans say that in the process, a lot of bees are killed, and some people view it as theft- as in, the bees are kept like prisoners, they work hard, then have their honey stolen.
I think that it's more based on principle than anything else. Extending the idea that animals aren't a means to our end, to insects. Honestly, the reason I don't eat honey is because I consider it to be a matter of principle. Well, that and it's not considered vegan and I don't want to get hated on by other vegans. Plus, I never really liked honey, so it's not like giving it up made much of a difference to me.
Although I'm not entirely sure, but I have heard some vegans say that many bees are squished and gassed in the process of extracting the honey. Plus, I'm fairly sure that the majority of honey comes from industry, and not local beekeepers. So, while it may or may not be true that small independent beekeepers help bees, I think it's safe to say that industry helps only themselves and doesn't care about the bees or the environment.
its the most obvious invertebrate-based product to boycott as a vegan. read jain philosophy. jains wont even eat certain plants that kill the entire structure of it. theres caring about your world and all forms of life, and theres extremes.
Great information, thanks!
the extinxtion of chickens, pigs and cows wouldn't do harm to our ecosystem. the extinction of bees does harm to our encosystem for they are the main pollinators on this planet. if they would get extinct, there wouldn't be enough vegan food anymore, so a completely vegan lifestyle without honey would, if everyone did it, basically destroy itself. so in this case, sticking to much to their principles simply for beeing "pure" basically will make them unable to live their philosophy. if you buy honey from small, local beekepers, you do no harm to bees, but enable them to survive and in addition you do good to our flora and agriculture.
There's a documentary on this place in China where bees are extinct, and the hardships of the people there. I forgot what it was I saw it so many years ago- there was this one group of farmers who literally go around pollinating all of the fruit trees... we're all in trouble as the bees begin to decline. :(
That is very very interesting. I'm just beginning my journey to find out about Veganism so this stuff is fascinating to me!
Personally I am not a fan of honey at all but I don't feel I should give it up just because other vegans don't accept it, I'm not looking to be accepted by other vegans, I'm much more interested in living life as compassionately as I can without causing harm to myself in the process. Social acceptance doesn't come into it.
@Lauren, if you remember the name of the documentary please let me know, I've had a look but nothing has come up.
Will do :)!
My reason is the slavery of the bees and that some bees are killed in the progress...