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I'm vegan, and use my common sense and am personally against hurting other sentient beings except in the endeavor of survival. If i am forced to use a discriminating attitude to survive i will. Do we need to eat animals or their by-products to survive, "No". Do we need to apply logic and cognitive reasoning to each moment?? "Yes"
Can't agree more.
I don't know what this question means?
Vegans may discriminate if they want to. I am sure there are Nazi vegans out there. Vegan does not equal universal love.
if only it was so clearcut. it's not. we're human and all have our own thoughts and emotions.
I discriminate against meat eaters! I tend to think of them as ignorant--which is a generalization :)
How would it be possible to survive if you did not categorize? You would go crazy trying to figure it out. How is the concept of a meat eater said as : " a meat eater does not hold all life sacred" not a valid observation??
eating meat does not mean that the life of the animal is not sacred. for instance, native tribes in America would pray upon the animal before hunting it. I suspect they were praying in reverence.
other tribes eat the tribe dog after it is dead. that was done to respect it.
in tibet, high lamas consume animal flesh out of compassion, knowing it will take higher birth after it was blessed by them.
so I can see numerous ways to respect the life of something that we eat. hopefully, everyone here realizes that carrots were also alive before we plucked them from the ground. they were growing, were they not?
Fair enough Fruit Fly, there may have been a spiritual attitude our ancestry applied to food acquisition in the past,...in fact i know there was, however the usage of animal life for our survival has long since past a necessity and has now become a mindless killing machine driven by the "price of stock".
Fruit Fly you made a good point. There are a lot of dimensions. Discrimination should not stop at the surface, it should continue. That is one way we evolve.
yes, the slaughter house/killing machine is there and it is wrong, but I would still say that a person eating meat from that industry does not necessarily have a lack of respect for the animal they eat.
they may in fact respect the animal even more and be able to pray for the suffering of the animal while still consuming it. so the act of eating an animal and respecting its life and the act of regretting the whole system of slaughter house are slightly separate issues yet intertwined.
the fact that they are intertwined does not make it impossible to have different sentiments on the issue that are exclusive of each other.
hi David::::::::my opinion , I think we must differentiate the attitude but not in purpose. What is our underlining purpose? For me it is breaking out of the old deluded self ,,and that alone may be a lifetime event. Anyhoozle..
the act of claiming vegetarianism and at least attempting the path is in fact an informal initiation. Three cheers to the "just let me have fish" because it is evident that their "mindfulness" has come to an "understanding". well now.... What is that understanding,..? I think it is this : "That life outside our own species is sacred as well".
I use to attend a Krishna Temple. There are all kind of food laws please don't ask me about them all because it is so connected to the Vedas that i needed a temple with a teacher and a cook. Sometimes we could eat this,,,sometimes that ..fasting without water...could not eat mushrooms, onions, radishes, potatoes because they were associated with darkness. I did at home of course. His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada did toward the end of his part in the realization, he gave a subtle nod to the ingesting food that appeared laws based on superstition. Because Krishna hung out with the cows and the Gopis, the cow is a very sacred animal obviously herding and dairy was considered reciprical gifting. Even in harsh time the cows were taken care of. It was reciprical...and once again And never eaten.!!!. . By the way,,,Gopis who were cow herders were also Krishna's cowherd lovers.
I believe that there has bee an awareness that has begun to become more mainstream and i will actively encourage someone at any level to "keep going".
Discrimination is valid when based on the moment and invalid when it is based on foolishness *