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Being Vegetarian is a SIN!
I just read somewhere that being vegetarian is a sin. The writer said that the animals were created in this world to act as a source of food. WTF!!
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Permalink Reply by lakshman on -
Agreed merryberry.
This is why I think atheism is a far bigger threat than even global warming :)
I think most vegans are from the west, who were probably brought up in Christian families. So they would like to bash Christianity as much as they can.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Rysdon on
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I don't think I was bashing anyone. I don't believe that any Christian would deny or disagree that if one atones for their sins and accepts Jesus as their Savior, they will go to Heaven...it is a core belief of the modern Christian movement, not my opinion. If one truly understands karma, the concept of consuming another sentient being takes on new meaning and has dire consequences, not so in the former. Not eating meat is a core responsibilty in many eastern religions, again, not my opinion. I don't think the statements in my previous post were untrue. I apologize if I have offended anyone. this was not my intention. That being said, if I were a cow, personally, I'd much prefer to live in a community of Buddhists or Hindus than a community of compassionate, practicing Christians. This is just my opinion.
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Permalink Reply by lakshman on
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Personally, I don't think this post is really much into Christian bashing. There are other posts like
http://www.vegfriend.com/forum/topics/why-people-eat-meat-religious...
, which is more direct
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Permalink Reply by Merryberry on -
Yes, I was referring to much of this entire post but as lakshman mentioned I've seen other posts that are even more hurtful. The mere title implies it’s open season on Christians. If you read through the posts it should be easy to see why Christians may feel offended by having their religion picked apart by those who aren’t even committed to God. These are the passages everyone loves to cite:
In Genesis 1.29-30 we read:
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so. (NIV)
In Genesis 9.1-5 we read:
Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth.The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal.” (NIV)
Yes, the Holy Bible permits the eating of meat after Noah and the ark, but just because God “permits” man to eat meat, doesn't mean "Being Vegetarian is a Sin". As I said in an earlier post, God would never judge you negatively for living a life of dedicated compassion. The Bible isn't an instruction manual of orders to be carried out. The Bible shows you both good and evil so you know the difference between them. God gives you everything you need to pursue a happy and compassionate life. What you do with that information is your burden. I feel more spiritually connected with God as a Vegan than I ever did before.
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Permalink Reply by lakshman on
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WOW, what you've written now is something really cool and amazing!
I'm not Christian and have never really read the Bible, but from what I get (according to your note),in Genesis 9.1-5, it says:
“But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it."
What I understand from this is that it is pretty clear (to me atleast) that the Bible's intention was to not kill an animal for food (compassion towards animals), but if an animal is dead (by some means, say naturally), then it's meat can be consumed. In other words, the Bible definitely says not to kill a living animal for meat. I think consuming the meat of an animal that died naturally is fine (not that I would do it!), because no killing was involved.
However, I also think people later used this line to their advantage and started "kosher" meat, where they killed the animal by sucking all its blood out and then cooking the meat so that they literally don't violate what is said in the Bible. (although I really feel this was not the true intention of the Bible)
Of course, I'm pretty sure there would be thousands of other interpretations of these lines out there!
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Permalink Reply by Merryberry on
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Yes, I take it to mean the same but regardless, God gives us everything we need to do right and live our best, most compassionate lives but ultimately it's up to us :)
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Permalink Reply by Gerett Treas on -
@ Iakshman According to the verse mentioned: "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it." Genesis 9:4, we are forbidden to eat meat! It is impossible to get blood out of meat! When someone cooks a steak, they only cook blood into it, not out of it! There is no method which gets blood completely out of meat.
Also, scripture says: "Notwithstanding, thou mayest kill and eat flesh within all thy gates, after all the desire of thy soul" Deuteronomy 12:15. This is saying that that we may eat flesh after our human desire. What does the Bible say about he desire of man? "But each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed." James 1:14. "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick." Jeremiah 17:9.
The Bible is clear that the soul, heart, and desires of man are extremely sick. God has permitted man to do many things: To die, to kill, to feel pain, to have diseases, to get fat, to have rotten teeth, etc. God has permitted the world to fall, leaving all things subject to degeneration. However, that does not mean that it is good! God never says anything is "very good" in a post fall creation. "Very good" was said of a sinless and deathless world.
On top of all of that, it is all symbology anyway! The Bible is the most deeply encrypted highly encoded book ever written. The entire Bible is a parable! It is an illustration of a greater truth which the masses are not permitted to know!
I have wrote so much on this subject on this website, I am exhausted honestly. Surely if someone wants to learn what the Bible is teaching about this subject, they can look into my writings. I have lived this practice and have walked with God for years, meditating on these things day and night. I promise you one thing, the loving God of Yeshua Ha'Mashiach is not going to be pleased with people who have been asked to repent of the sin of animal cruelty. Yes, I believe that eating meat is a sin, and that meat eaters need to repent! "Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned." Romans 5:12. Meat eating is the result of death, and death is the result of sin. Plain and simple.
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Permalink Reply by Barry Davies on -
The discipline involved in preparing Kosher food, (removing the blood and fat) is meant as a constant reminder to Jews that God originally wanted them to be (what we now call) vegan. This is something that is sadly lost on many Christians.
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Permalink Reply by Gerett Treas on
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Right, but you still cannot remove blood from meat, lol...it is not possible. Kosher meat is a joke! I don't care how many times you rinse it, soak it, or salt it, that stuff is still going to have blood in it.
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Permalink Reply by Keith T. Hall on -
Oh...don't you know as well that it's the purpose of some animals to sacrifice their skins for fur? I mean...isn't that why God put them on this planet?
Obviously...I'm being sarcastic but people say this crap because deep down inside, they know the fur trade and factory farming is extreeeeeeeemly inhumane...they just want to justify it.
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Permalink Reply by Angie W. on -
@Keith... Yes, it seems there is plenty of statements made like that who feel they are justifying their actions. That doesnt make it right whatsoever. To make themselves feel better or make them look less cruel? That is how I feel about hunting...It seems like as long as it crawls, walks, runs or swims...we should kill it and eat it. NO justification for that in my book.
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