Religions Don't Kill- People Do

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Religions Don't Kill- People Do

For all those who are truly compassionate, who are sick of the apologists justifying murder due to religion. If a religion is not built on love, and condones murder, I'm sorry it's garbage.

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Animals as Pawns in Religious Rituals

Started by Lauren Woods May 7, 2013. 0 Replies

Saw this disturbing post and thought I'd share it here.…Continue

What is the Highest Aim of Religion/Spirituality?

Started by Gerett Treas. Last reply by Lauren Woods Apr 24, 2013. 8 Replies

What is the ultimate purpose of any spiritual system? What is it that religions are teaching at the most fundamental levels and how/why is this put into practice? I believe the basis of most…Continue

To Light

Started by Vijitatma Dasa. Last reply by Lauren Woods Apr 6, 2013. 2 Replies

O Lord and essence of LightLead me from the unreal to the realFrom darkness to LightFrom death to immortality                 Brhadaranyaka UpanishadContinue

Is Religion Slvaery?

Started by Vijitatma Dasa. Last reply by Lauren Woods Jan 23, 2013. 12 Replies

I hear a lot these days the rallying call:RELIGION IS SLAVERYorRELIGION HAS CAUSED THE GREATEST EVIL IN HISTORYI would respond that they are partly correct.Great evil and slavery has been and is…Continue

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Comment by Giselle Limon on December 11, 2012 at 10:41am

I truly believe in this. Its not the religion its the people...and it happens with any sort of belief not necessarily just religion. It's usually the radicals of any group or religion that get bat shit crazy and then excuse their actions with religion...it grinds my gears..but unfortunately people will pin it on the religion rather than think that particular person wasn't exactly sane. :/  Ok lets take for example Muslims ( i am not a muslim but I am friends with whom they identify with the islamic religion) - after 9/11- the majority of Americans associated those who were (and unfortunately many still do) with being terrorist however, the Islamic religion is a very peaceful one and it carries its own beautiful message just like each religion does.... Again its the radicals that get crazy and do crazy things and make the rest look bad.

Comment by Lauren Woods on December 11, 2012 at 2:32pm

That is very true, Giselle. They do just excuse their actions with religion, like it's a shield to hide behind. Religion is a tool I suppose, it's unfortunate that while many use it for good (such as your muslim friends, I was sickened after 9/11 and people were murdering muslims) but most use it as a convenience, or a social status. Ughhh drives me up a wall! To think you can point to a book and be free of responsibility for any type of cruelty! 

Comment by Sumit San on December 11, 2012 at 4:32pm

I totally agree with you. I think I am a religious person. I am veg by birth because I was born in a religious family. Religions teach love and compassion. People misinterpret the preaching selfishly, to what is favorable for them. 

I truly believe that - "Killing others is the greatest sin of all. Sinners will rot in hell."

Comment by Lauren Woods on December 12, 2012 at 2:28am

So well said, Sumit. They do interpret it in ways to benefit themselves, not other creatures. What's a shame is plenty of nice, compassionate, religious people being label as extreme because of their cruel counterparts, who take selfish pleasure in harming other living creatures. 

Comment by Gerett Treas on December 12, 2012 at 2:40am

Some of the most disgusting things that I have ever encountered happened to me in Bible College. One example would be when I attended a small Baptist church in the south one Sunday evening. I was with a young man who was preaching a "revival." After the service was over he was speaking with the pastor, whom had invited the young man as a guest to preach at his church. He preceded to ask the one I was with if he would cover for him the next few weekends while he went on vacation. He said, "of course, what are you planning to do?" The gentleman said, "oh I just need to get away, get some rest, you know? Shoot some deer!" It was hunting season by the way. Utter disgust, and the presence of hypocrisy (not to mention the presence of demons) fell over me in a way I cannot describe. When we were getting ready to leave the man found out, through the young man I was with, that I was vegetarian (not vegan at the time.) This HILLBILLY just laughed and said, "Why? It's not like animals have a soul?" I quickly refuted him in that the Holy Bible NEVER says animals possess any less of a soul than a human and mentioned Ecclesiastes 3:19-20 "Man's fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless. All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return." It goes on to mention we cannot tell where the spirit's go, whether it's up or down. He did not have much to say after this, but he was not convinced, neither was the one I was with. The point of this is that religion is a bit confused. In my case, I claim spirituality, as I am not bound, which is the word religare and I do not practice religio which is practice done in anxious detail (both root words for religion.) Religions truly are "systems" of belief, and systems function based on rules. The Roman Catholic Church (sorry if I offend) in ancient times is responsible for this, in the Christian tradition. They high jacked the Bible, reworded it, kept it from the people, then re-released an edited version to the masses. I need not mention the burning of the Library of Alexandria, which contained the worlds most ancient teachings, of all traditions, on the origins of our world and much more. In the pope's mind, he is vicar for Christ. Since Christ is not here, someone has to rule in his place. The pope eagerly takes this job. Truly spiritual people will love, not exclusively humans (like the church,) but all beings. This is, I believe, why many people scoff religions, especially Christianity, because they are hypocritical. They murder and destroy the creation and then get behind the pulpit and talk about love, WHAT! Perhaps, if they would like people to listen, they should practice what they preach! 

Comment by Lauren Woods on December 12, 2012 at 2:51am

:O Oh my goodness... I don't know how I'd react in that situation... how rude and condescending! HAHA you schooled him on the Bible, that's awesome! I've had to do this a few times myself. That's also a lovely passage you quoted, I'll have to remember that the next time. So true, we humans are so arrogant we think we can claim (if there's a God) what enters Heaven and what doesn't. So frustrating! I'm no fan of the Catholic Church either, I very much agree with what you said. I come from a Catholic family too, but I never felt comfortable with the "You need to get to Heaven through us" thought process. You are certainly right about the old days, humanity's past is very dark, we've destroyed so much for power. It makes me very sad.

Comment by Lauren Woods on December 12, 2012 at 3:10am

Not a single religion in the world mandates the consumption of meat. That people use this for a shield because they don't want to give up convenience... sigh... I am confounded by people who twist and poison religion to suit their needs.

Comment by Gerett Treas on December 12, 2012 at 4:51am

I tried to double my check my saying about the Library of Alexandria being burned by the Roman Catholics. It appears that some sources attribute it to them, yet most attribute it to Julius Caesar. Either way, what a tragedy! They did however horde the Bible, change it, etc. I know that for a fact! 

Sad thing is, as you said they "twist and poison religion to suit their needs." This is true, however, they say that I do this because I believe differently. There are 2 billion professing Christians in the world, that does not do this passage justice "But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:14. 

Comment by Lauren Woods on December 12, 2012 at 4:57am

That is also very lovely :)! True, a great tragedy. :(! They did change it, I find it so aggravating people can't own up to that, most scholars agree on this if not all. I haven't heard a student of history who conflicted that. I mean belief is one thing, but you shouldn't drown out facts either. Make them compatible, one does not need to trample the other. 


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Comment by Jenii Saladtarian on December 12, 2012 at 11:42am

He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous,and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray,one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.The Pharisee,standing by himself, prayed thus:‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men,extortioners, unjust, adulterers,or even like this tax collector.I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’

Who do you think God paid more attention to?The righteous man who boastest his own self-rightouesness or to the taxer payer,who proclaim he was a sinner?? Luke 18:9-14 (the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector) Jesus tells us not to hinder, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as them.So,if their meat eaters, murders etc etc..We're all sinners and fall VERY short.We should not be hindering no one with our words..

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