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We stress so much importance that human beings are not superior to animals, it shocks me some people would suggest that animal right's tower above the rights of people. That in sending a message, we should ignore the methods of which we go about them, and take no responsibility, and guffaw about the rights of fellow human's like it's a big joke and we're all in grade school.
A vegetarian I follow recently posted this:
"What if all women were bigger and stronger than you? And thought they were smarter? What if women were the ones who started wars? What if too many of your friends had been raped by women wielding giant dildos and no K-Y Jelly? What if the state trooper who pulled you over on the New Jersey Turnpike was a woman and carried a gun? What if the ability to menstruate was the prerequisite for most high-paying jobs? What if your attractiveness to women depended on the size of your penis? What if every time women saw you they’d hoot and make jerking motions with their hands? What if women were always making jokes about how ugly penises are and how bad sperm tastes? What if you had to explain what’s wrong with your car to big sweaty women with greasy hands who stared at your crotch in a garage where you are surrounded by posters of naked men with hard-ons? What if men’s magazines featured cover photos of 14-year-old boys with socks tucked into the front of their jeans and articles like: “How to tell if your wife is unfaithful” or “What your doctor won’t tell you about your prostate” or “The truth about impotence”? What if the doctor who examined your prostate was a woman and called you “Honey”? What if you had to inhale your boss’ stale cigar breath as she insisted that sleeping with her was part of the job? What if you couldn’t get away because the company dress code required you wear shoes designed to keep you from running? And what if after all that women still wanted you to love them?” - For the Men Who Still Don’t Get It by Carol Diehl
While promoting rights for animals, we should be ever mindful of the struggles of female human beings, and not use them as sex objects to promote an agenda that can otherwise, ethically, be promoted.
A user responded:
Feminist analysis posits that we live in a patriarchal culture, that we have, all of us, men and women (and those who don't accept a gender binary), been taught from infancy that males are superior to females. Feminism does not suggest that there was a vast, knowing conspiracy among men across the ages, but that certain elements (analyzed anthropologically, physiologically, socially, psychologically, economically, and so on) have resulted in tens of millions of tiny decision made by women and men which taken as a whole give preference to men, and reinforce that preference. This has been philosophically justified in Plato's hierarchy of being, medically justified in Renaissance medicine, legally justified in our Constitution, religiously justified in every faith tradition's scriptures (examples on request) and so on. I am not saying that men are bad or evil; I'm saying that patriarchy is perpetuated as a world-view assumption, that trusted teachers, good friends, and loving parents taught us (men and women) this system, and it takes a lot of work to play this patriarchal game. Hell, it takes a lot of work just to become *aware* of this patriarchal game. It came into my life the same way capitalism, materialism, theism, individualism did.
I was raised in a sexist culture, by well-intentioned sexists, who didn't even realize that they were perpetuating sexism. How could I NOT have been sexist? The difference is that I now realize I'm sexist, and /I'm trying to stop./ The Pope is also sexist; if EVER there was a patriarchy, the Pope is at the top. The difference is I'm trying to end the patriarchy, and the Pope is trying to perpetuate it. You're right that it is not the case that all men are actively trying to be bigoted. They continue to be sexist because it's a world-view assumption that they did not ask for, and had no choice in the matter. In fact, men have been taught not to notice patriarchy (lest our consciences be provoked and we be moved to change it). Some men have had an epiphany about patriarchy, and they will need help to see the myriad ways their words and actions perpetuate sexism even when they don't want to. Those men who refuse to acknowledge patriarchy, or who deny, minimize, or rationalize, the sexism women face? They are usually the ones who think this is "moronic tripe designed to whip internet activists into a frenzy".
The piece is not utopian; it doesn't describe a feminist dream. The piece begins to give men who will listen some idea of what women go through every day. Dismiss it, and they support the status quo. Dismiss it, and I am automatically suspicious of their egalitarian agenda, because it's really easy for a guy, trained in patriarchy, to support the status quo while trying to be egalitarian. Dismiss it, and they make it harder for themselves to live life authentically, because a big part of their energy must now go to denial.
If a man disagrees with this, in a patriarchy, it is on the man's shoulders to disagree in a principled way, in a way that does not discount, minimize, insult, or condescend.
^^ And this man's point on the post, brings me to further explain PETA's disregard for female rights. Destroying respect for women (and men) is no way to restore respect for animal's.
^^ The above poster is anti-PETA, and while they acknowledge the benefits the organization does, cannot agree with the blatant use of sexualization, shoved on not just adults but aimed at children.
Jacqueline, you’re right: PETA isn’t a female-positive organization. And we know it. We’ve complained about their use of porn (essentially) to get attention for animal rights. We’ve included their ads in our list of the most offensive fat-shaming ads. Their use of fat-shaming and objectification of women get them attention (such as this), but ultimately, we think it’s a pretty stupid way to promote animal rights.
But bashing PETA isn’t simple for those of us who agree with some of their ideas: PETA is one of the most outspoken and well-funded resources for people who are interested in animal rights or a vegan lifestyle. In fact, they’re one of the only resources and organizations that are vocally pro-animal rights at all. As Blisstree’s Associate Editor (and author of the wool article that made Jacqueline so angry) Hanna Brooks Olsen put it: ”It’s hard to come down on them too hard if they’re the only game in town, so to speak.”
To be honest, I feel ambivalent about PETA. I’m not currently vegan or vegetarian, but when I was (for nearly 20 years), it wasn’t for reasons having to do with animal rights. I don’t think that everyone should necessarily avoid animal products entirely, but I also don’t think that the way Americans currently consume and produce meat is humane or healthy. And if PETA can bring attention to the problems with America’s current methods of food production; I think that’s a good thing for our health.
So will we bash PETA for objectifying and fat-shaming women? We have and we’ll continue to do so. But will we refuse to mention some of the good work they’re doing? It’s highly unlikely that we’ll discontinue discussion of veganism and vegetarianism anytime soon, and on occasion, that means mentioning and agreeing with PETA.
^^ With this above poster, they are very amicable towards PETA, but not in regards to their tasteless tactics. It's fine for you to laugh and scoff at women's rights, but you should consider that as a vegan, you will convolute the message of equality for animals when you make jokes on how "Hot" the naked celebs are.